diff --git a/core/models.py b/core/models.py
index 7c480e28..5336a3e1 100644
--- a/core/models.py
+++ b/core/models.py
@@ -213,7 +213,7 @@ class User(AbstractBaseUser, PermissionsMixin):
         if hasattr(obj, "is_owned_by") and obj.is_owned_by(self):
             return True
         if hasattr(obj, "owner_group") and self.is_in_group(obj.owner_group.name):
-            return False
+            return True
         if self.is_superuser or self.is_in_group(settings.SITH_GROUPS['root']['name']):
             return True
         return False
diff --git a/core/templates/core/page.jinja b/core/templates/core/page.jinja
index b421fdd8..ac3021eb 100644
--- a/core/templates/core/page.jinja
+++ b/core/templates/core/page.jinja
@@ -5,6 +5,8 @@
         {{ page.get_display_name() }}
     {% elif page_list %}
         Page list
+    {% elif new_page %}
+        Create page
     {% else %}
         Not found
     {% endif %}
@@ -16,6 +18,6 @@
         {% endblock %}
     {% else %}
         <h2>Page does not exist</h2>
-        <p><a href="{{ url('core:page_prop', page_name=new_page) }}">Create it?</a></p>
+        <p><a href="{{ url('core:page_new') }}?page={{ request.resolver_match.kwargs['page_name'] }}">Create it?</a></p>
     {% endif %}
 {% endblock %}
diff --git a/core/templates/core/page_detail.jinja b/core/templates/core/page_detail.jinja
index 6ca0e222..889698bf 100644
--- a/core/templates/core/page_detail.jinja
+++ b/core/templates/core/page_detail.jinja
@@ -3,10 +3,10 @@
 {% block page %}
     <h3>Page</h3>
     <p><a href="{{ url('core:page_list') }}">Back to list</a></p>
-    {% if can_edit %}
+    {% if can_edit(page, user) %}
         <p><a href="{{ url('core:page_edit', page_name=page.get_full_name()) }}">Edit</a></p>
     {% endif %}
-    {% if can_edit_prop %}
+    {% if can_edit_prop(page, user) %}
         <p><a href="{{ url('core:page_prop', page_name=page.get_full_name()) }}">Prop</a></p>
     {% endif %}
     <p>You're seeing the page <strong>{{ page.get_display_name() }}</strong> -
diff --git a/core/tests.py b/core/tests.py
index e8fb6bc9..12166b29 100644
--- a/core/tests.py
+++ b/core/tests.py
@@ -181,7 +181,7 @@ class PageHandlingTest(TestCase):
         """
         Should create a page correctly
         """
-        self.client.post(reverse('core:page_prop', kwargs={'page_name': 'guy'}), {
+        self.client.post(reverse('core:page_new'), {
             'parent': '',
             'name': 'guy',
             'owner_group': 1,
@@ -194,12 +194,12 @@ class PageHandlingTest(TestCase):
         """
         Should create a page correctly
         """
-        self.client.post(reverse('core:page_prop', kwargs={'page_name': 'guy'}), {
+        self.client.post(reverse('core:page_new'), {
             'parent': '',
             'name': 'guy',
             'owner_group': '1',
             })
-        response = self.client.post(reverse('core:page_prop', kwargs={'page_name': 'guy/bibou'}), {
+        response = self.client.post(reverse('core:page_new'), {
             'parent': '1',
             'name': 'bibou',
             'owner_group': '1',
@@ -235,14 +235,13 @@ class PageHandlingTest(TestCase):
         """
         response = self.client.get(reverse('core:page', kwargs={'page_name': 'swagg'}))
         self.assertTrue(response.status_code == 200)
-        self.assertTrue('<a href="/page/swagg/prop">Create it?</a>' in str(response.content))
-
+        self.assertTrue('<a href="/page/create?page=swagg">Create it?</a>' in str(response.content))
 
     def test_create_page_markdown_safe(self):
         """
         Should format the markdown and escape html correctly
         """
-        self.client.post(reverse('core:page_prop', kwargs={'page_name': 'guy'}), {
+        self.client.post(reverse('core:page_new'), {
             'parent': '',
             'name': 'guy',
             'owner_group': '1',
diff --git a/core/urls.py b/core/urls.py
index e07609ac..5d1c8b89 100644
--- a/core/urls.py
+++ b/core/urls.py
@@ -31,6 +31,7 @@ urlpatterns = [
 
     # Page views
     url(r'^page/$', PageListView.as_view(), name='page_list'),
+    url(r'^page/create$', PageCreateView.as_view(), name='page_new'),
     url(r'^page/(?P<page_name>[a-z0-9/-_]*)/edit$', PageEditView.as_view(), name='page_edit'),
     url(r'^page/(?P<page_name>[a-z0-9/-_]*)/prop$', PagePropView.as_view(), name='page_prop'),
     url(r'^page/(?P<page_name>[a-z0-9/-_]*)/hist$', PageHistView.as_view(), name='page_hist'),
diff --git a/core/views/page.py b/core/views/page.py
index 28c85008..fc164047 100644
--- a/core/views/page.py
+++ b/core/views/page.py
@@ -1,9 +1,11 @@
 # This file contains all the views that concern the page model
 from django.shortcuts import render, redirect, get_object_or_404
 from django.views.generic import ListView, DetailView
-from django.views.generic.edit import UpdateView
+from django.views.generic.edit import UpdateView, CreateView
 from django.contrib.auth.decorators import login_required, permission_required
 from django.utils.decorators import method_decorator
+from django.forms.models import modelform_factory
+from django.forms import CheckboxSelectMultiple
 
 from core.models import Page, PageRev, LockError
 from core.views.forms import PagePropForm
@@ -29,11 +31,6 @@ class PageView(CanViewMixin, DetailView):
         context = super(PageView, self).get_context_data(**kwargs)
         if "page" not in context.keys():
             context['new_page'] = self.kwargs['page_name']
-        if self.request.user.is_owner(self.object):
-            context['can_edit_prop'] = True
-        if self.request.user.can_edit(self.object):
-            context['can_edit'] = True
-
         return context
 
 class PageHistView(CanViewMixin, DetailView):
@@ -66,36 +63,67 @@ class PageRevView(CanViewMixin, DetailView):
             context['new_page'] = self.kwargs['page_name']
         return context
 
-class PagePropView(CanEditPropMixin, UpdateView):
+class PageCreateView(CanEditPropMixin, CreateView):
     model = Page
-    form_class = PagePropForm
+    form_class = modelform_factory(Page,
+            fields = ['parent', 'name', 'owner_group', 'edit_groups', 'view_groups', ],
+            widgets={
+                'edit_groups':CheckboxSelectMultiple,
+                'view_groups':CheckboxSelectMultiple,
+                })
     template_name = 'core/page_prop.jinja'
 
-    def get_object(self):
-        page_name = self.kwargs['page_name']
-        p = Page.get_page_by_full_name(page_name)
-        # Create the page if it does not exists
-        if p == None:
+    def get_initial(self):
+        init = {}
+        if 'page' in self.request.GET.keys():
+            page_name = self.request.GET['page']
             parent_name = '/'.join(page_name.split('/')[:-1])
-            name = page_name.split('/')[-1]
-            if parent_name == "":
-                p = Page(name=name)
-            else:
-                parent = Page.get_page_by_full_name(parent_name)
-                p = Page(name=name, parent=parent)
-        self.page = p
+            parent = Page.get_page_by_full_name(parent_name)
+            if parent is not None:
+                init['parent'] = parent.id
+            init['name'] = page_name.split('/')[-1]
+        return init
+
+    def get_context_data(self, **kwargs):
+        context = super(PageCreateView, self).get_context_data(**kwargs)
+        print(context)
+        context['new_page'] = True
+        return context
+
+    def form_valid(self, form):
+        form.instance.set_lock(self.request.user)
+        return super(PageCreateView, self).form_valid(form)
+
+class PagePropView(CanEditPropMixin, UpdateView):
+    model = Page
+    form_class = modelform_factory(Page,
+            fields = ['parent', 'name', 'owner_group', 'edit_groups', 'view_groups', ],
+            widgets={
+                'edit_groups':CheckboxSelectMultiple,
+                'view_groups':CheckboxSelectMultiple,
+                })
+    template_name = 'core/page_prop.jinja'
+    slug_field = '_full_name'
+    slug_url_kwarg = 'page_name'
+
+    def get_object(self):
+        o = super(PagePropView, self).get_object()
+        # Create the page if it does not exists
+        #if p == None:
+        #    parent_name = '/'.join(page_name.split('/')[:-1])
+        #    name = page_name.split('/')[-1]
+        #    if parent_name == "":
+        #        p = Page(name=name)
+        #    else:
+        #        parent = Page.get_page_by_full_name(parent_name)
+        #        p = Page(name=name, parent=parent)
+        self.page = o
         try:
             self.page.set_lock_recursive(self.request.user)
         except LockError as e:
             raise e
         return self.page
 
-    def get_context_data(self, **kwargs):
-        context = super(PagePropView, self).get_context_data(**kwargs)
-        if "page" not in context.keys():
-            context['new_page'] = self.kwargs['page_name']
-        return context
-
 class PageEditView(CanEditMixin, UpdateView):
     model = PageRev
     fields = ['title', 'content',]